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Autism Diagnosis, Now What?: ABA Therapy After an Autism Diagnosis: Red Flags, Green Flags, and Parent Questions

Dr. Mark Bowers Season 2 Episode 4

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After an autism diagnosis, many parents are quickly told to consider ABA therapy, but deciding what’s right for your child can feel overwhelming, confusing, and emotionally loaded.

In this episode of Beneath the Behavior, Dr. Mark Bowers breaks down what ABA, or Applied Behavior Analysis, actually is, why some families find it helpful, and why many autistic adults have serious concerns about it. This conversation is designed to help parents move beyond fear, pressure, and polarized advice so they can make a more thoughtful decision about autism intervention and support.

You’ll learn how to evaluate ABA therapy through the lens of communication, emotional safety, nervous system regulation, autonomy, masking, sensory needs, and long-term well-being. Dr. Bowers also explains the difference between therapy that builds meaningful skills and therapy that simply teaches compliance.

This episode covers practical ABA red flags and green flags, including forced eye contact, suppressing stimming, ignoring sensory distress, overemphasizing compliance, respecting AAC, allowing breaks, supporting regulation, and focusing on functional life skills. You’ll also hear how to think about ABA hours, therapy intensity, burnout, and whether an intervention is truly helping your child grow.

If you’re a parent trying to decide whether ABA is right for your autistic child, this episode will help you ask better questions, trust your observations, and choose support that respects your child’s communication, safety, independence, and identity.

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Hi, I'm Dr. Mark Bowers. I'm a licensed pediatric psychologist and I specialize in working with neurodivergent kids and their families. This podcast is for parents and caregivers who feel like parenting has been harder than they expected and want understanding instead of blame. Here, we slow things down and look beneath behavior so we can make sense of what's actually going on from a brain and nervous system perspective and support neurodivergent kids with science, not shame. Now, before we get started, a quick note. This podcast is for education and understanding. It isn't therapy, and it isn't a substitute for working with your own provider. I won't be giving individual advice, but I hope these conversations help you think more clearly and compassionately about your child. In today's episode, we're continuing the Now What series After an Autism Diagnosis. And today we're talking about one of the biggest, most emotionally loaded, and honestly most confusing topics that parents run into after their child is diagnosed with autism. ABA, applied behavior analysis. And I really want to slow this conversation down. Because what I see happen all the time is that families receive the diagnosis, and before they've even had time to emotionally process what autism means for their child, they're suddenly being told you need ABA. You should get on wait lists immediately. Early intervention is critical. The more hours, the better. And parents are trying to make decisions while still emotionally catching up to the diagnosis itself. At the exact same time, if they start researching ABA online, they're probably going to run into some very strong and very conflicting opinions. Some families say ABA changed our child's life. And some autistic adults say ABA was deeply harmful for me. And if you're a parent trying to do the right thing, that is incredibly difficult to sort through. Because now you're sitting there wondering, am I supposed to pursue this? Am I supposed to avoid this? What even is modern ABA anymore? Why are people talking about it so differently? How do I know what's actually right for my child? And honestly, I think a lot of parents feel afraid to even ask those questions out loud because the conversation can become so polarized so quickly. So this episode is not going to be about giving you a simplistic answer. It's not going to tell you that ABA is automatically good for every child. And I'm also not going to tell you that every ABA experience is automatically harmful. Because I don't think either of those extremes are actually helpful for families trying to make thoughtful decisions. Instead, what I want to do is to help you think through this carefully: what ABA actually is, why some families genuinely find it helpful, why some autistic adults have serious concerns about it, what masking is, what emotional safety should look like in therapy, what red flags matter and what green flags matter, and most importantly, how to evaluate whether an intervention is actually helping your child grow in a healthy and sustainable way. Because that's the real question. Not should everyone do ABA, but what kind of support helps this specific child build communication, safety, flexibility, and independence without teaching them that who they are is wrong. That's the conversation I want us to have today. Before we even talk about ABA itself, I think we need to acknowledge something emotionally. Most parents are entering this conversation from a place of fear, not bad fear, protective fear. The kind that says, I don't want to miss something important. And that fear makes sense. Because once you receive an autism diagnosis, there's suddenly this pressure that shows up. Pressure to act quickly, to make the right choices, pressure to not lose time and to get services in place immediately. And honestly, sometimes the system reinforces that pressure. Families hear phrases like the earlier the intervention, the better the outcome. And while there's truth inside that statement, what many parents actually absorb is if I don't make the right decision right now, I could permanently hurt my child's future. That is a heavy thing to carry. And I think that we need to slow that down. Because when parents feel panicked, decision making tends to become reactive instead of thoughtful. Some families jump into the first available program because they're terrified of waiting. Other families avoid everything because the information feels overwhelming and emotionally loaded. And both reactions usually come from the same place, wanting desperately to help their child. That's important. Because I think sometimes these conversations become so ideological online that we forget there are real parents sitting in the middle of this, trying to make good decisions with incomplete information. Most families are not trying to make their child normal. They're trying to reduce suffering. They're trying to help their child communicate, stay safe, participate more comfortably in daily life, feel less frustrated, have fewer overwhelming moments, connect more easily, and that matters. So before we go any further, I want to say this clearly. You are allowed to ask hard questions. You are allowed to move slowly. You are allowed to observe. You are allowed to gather information before making decisions. And you are allowed to change your mind later if something is not helping your child in the way you hoped. That is not failure. That is thoughtful parenting. Now let's talk about what ABA actually is because many families are referred for ABA before anyone really explains it in a practical way. ABA stands for Applied Behavior Analysis. At its core, ABA is based on learning and behavior principles. Very broadly, it looks at what happens before a behavior, what happens after a behavior, what function the behavior may be serving, and how skills can be taught using repetition, prompting, reinforcement, shaping, and structured practice. Now, when people hear that definition, they often imagine one very specific kind of therapy. But modern ABA can look very different depending on the provider, the philosophy, the clinic, the goals, the age of the child, the training of the staff, and whether the program is regulation informed and neurodiversity informed. And this is where parents get confused, because two families can both say, my child receives ABA, and they may be talking about completely different experiences. One child may be sitting at a table doing highly structured drills for long periods of time. Another child may be participating in a very play-based, relationship-focused, naturalistic program. One provider may prioritize compliance above all else. Another may prioritize communication, regulation, flexibility, and adaptive skills. One therapist may be warm, responsive, and collaborative. Another may feel rigid and behavior focused in a way that feels emotionally uncomfortable. So when people debate ABA online, they are often talking about entirely different versions of it. And that's part of why parents feel so confused. Now I want to spend real time talking about why some families genuinely do feel ABA helped their child. Because if we skip this part, we lose nuance, and nuance matters. There are families who feel that ABA helped their child communicate more effectively, reduce dangerous behaviors, tolerate transitions, build daily living skills, develop flexibility, improve safety awareness, participate more comfortably in routines, decrease frustration and increase independence, and those things all matter. For example, I've worked with families whose child had no reliable way to communicate wants and needs. The child was constantly frustrated, meltdowns happening multiple times a day. Family felt like they were living in survival mode. And after receiving support that focused heavily on communication and regulation, the child became able to request help, ask for breaks, transition more predictably, and tolerate routines with less distress. That changed daily life for the whole family. I've also seen situations where children had significant safety concerns, running into parking lots, eloping from classrooms, climbing unsafely, aggression during overwhelm that placed the child or others at risk, and structured intervention helped create safer patterns. Those experiences are real. And I don't think it's helpful or fair to dismiss families who feel certain interventions genuinely improved quality of life. But we also have to hold another truth at the same time. Some autistic adults describe experiences that felt emotionally painful, invalidating, or deeply focused on making them appear neurotypical instead of actually supporting their nervous system and their identity. And both of those realities deserve space in this conversation. That's where the nuance matters most. I think it's incredibly important for parents to listen openly to autistic adults, not because every autistic person has the same experience, but because lived experience matters. And one of the major concerns many autistic adults describe is this feeling that therapy focused too heavily on compliance and outward behavior while ignoring internal experience. Things like forced eye contact, suppressing stimming, being expected to sit for long periods, being pushed through sensory distress, being rewarded for looking calm while internally overwhelmed, learning to prioritize adult approval over personal comfort or boundaries. And one of the phrases you'll often hear in these discussions is masking. So let's talk about that carefully because it matters a lot. Masking is when an autistic person suppresses or hides aspects of themselves in order to appear more socially acceptable, more compliant, or more neurotypical. And masking can be incredibly complicated because from the outside it often looks like success. That's what makes it tricky. A child may appear calm, compliant, socially appropriate, high functioning, flexible, but internally they may be working extremely hard to maintain that presentation. And eventually that effort can become exhausting. This is where parents sometimes feel confused because they'll hear, he did amazing in therapy. He held it together all day. She's doing great at school. And then at home, the child completely falls apart. Meltdowns, shutdowns, aggression, exhaustion, withdrawal, and parents start wondering what is happening. If everything is supposedly going well, why does my child seem so depleted? Sometimes the answer is that the child is spending enormous energy trying to maintain a version of themselves that feels acceptable to others. Now, I want to be very careful here because not every effort toward flexibility or skill building is masking. Learning coping skills is not inherently harmful. Learning communication is not harmful. Learning adaptive skills is not harmful. But the question becomes: what is the child learning about themselves in the process? Are they learning my needs matter too? Or are they learning my comfort matters less than appearing compliant? That distinction is huge. Because if a child learns that saying no, expressing discomfort or showing regulation needs is unacceptable, that can create long-term emotional consequences. And this is one reason why many autistic adults have pushed for more neurodiversity-affirming approaches. Not because they don't believe in learning, but because they want learning to happen without shame, without teaching children that autistic traits themselves are bad. That's an important distinction. Now let's make this more practical because parents often ask, how do I know if a therapy feels healthy for my child? And honestly, I think this is one of the most important questions in this whole episode. Good therapy should not feel like constant emotional pressure. It should not feel like the child is spending every session trying to avoid getting something wrong. And it should not feel like the child's entire personality is being reshaped. Instead, good therapy should feel supportive, connected, and flexible. That does not mean there are no demands, does not mean the child is always happy. Learning can be hard. Growth can be uncomfortable. But emotionally safe therapy usually has certain qualities. The therapist builds relationship first. The child appears comfortable around them over time. Communication attempts are respected. Breaks are allowed. Regulation matters. The child can show preferences. The therapist follows the child's lead at least some of the time. There is joy in the interaction. The goals make sense in daily life. The child is not constantly being corrected for harmless autistic traits. And importantly, the child still feels like themselves. That matters more than many people realize. Because some children become very compliant while simultaneously becoming more anxious, more shut down, or more exhausted internally. And if we only measure outward behavior, we can miss that entirely. Now let's talk about red flags because I think families need practical guidance here. Things I would personally pay attention to include a provider who dismisses sensory distress, a provider who interprets every behavior only as manipulation or escape, heavy focus on compliance without enough attention to regulation, forcing eye contact, stopping harmless stimming because it looks different. No flexibility in the approach, no opportunities for breaks, punishing communication attempts that are imperfect, treating distress as something to extinguish rather than understand. Using food or rewards in ways that feel excessive or controlling, ignoring parent concerns, discouraging parent observation, expecting robotic responses, or expecting children to tolerate levels of distress that clearly overwhelm their nervous system. Another major red flag for me is when goals seem more focused on making the child look typical rather than improving quality of life. For example, teaching a child to stop flapping their hands when flapping is not hurting anyone and may actually help regulation. That deserves careful thought because again, the goal should not be eliminating harmless autistic traits simply because they look unusual. The goal should be improving functioning, communication, safety, flexibility, and emotional well-being. Those are very different priorities. Now let's balance that with green flags. Things that would make me feel more comfortable include providers who talk about regulation and nervous system support, providers who value communication in all forms, providers who respect AAC, providers who explain the why behind goals clearly, providers who include parent coaching, providers who collaborate with speech and occupational therapy, providers who tolerate nuance and questions, who can adjust expectations based on the child's state, who allow movement and sensory supports and breaks, providers who focus on functional life skills, who repair relationships after difficult moments. And honestly, one of the biggest green flags for me is curiosity. Does the therapist seem genuinely curious about the child? Not just the behavior, the child, their personality, their interests, their regulation needs, their communication style, their sensory profile. Because children feel the difference between being managed and being understood. And that difference matters. Now we need to talk about hours, because this is another area where parents feel enormous pressure. Some families are told twenty hours, thirty hours, forty hours a week. And I think families need permission to ask thoughtful questions about intensity, because therapy itself creates load. Even good therapy requires attention, transitions, processing, demands, social interaction, energy. And some children become exhausted when every hour of their day is structured around intervention. So one of the questions I often think about clinically is how much support helps this child grow without turning childhood into constant work? Because rest matters, free play matters, family time matters, downtime matters, joy matters, recovery matters. Being a child matters. And I think sometimes families become so afraid of missing the window that life becomes nothing but therapy. That can create burnout for the child and for the family. Now, does that mean intensive services are never appropriate? No. Some children absolutely need substantial support. But intensity alone is not the goal. Fit matters, quality matters, the child's nervous system matters, sustainability matters, and parents deserve permission to think about all of those variables thoughtfully. Now this may be the most important section in this episode. How do you know if therapy is actually helping? Not just producing outward behavior changes, actually helping? I would look at things like: is communication improving? Is frustration decreasing? Is the child gaining more flexibility over time? Are daily routines becoming more manageable? Does the child seem emotionally safe with the therapist? Does the child recover reasonably after sessions? Is the child becoming more capable or just more compliant? That distinction matters. I would also pay attention to the child's overall emotional state. Are they becoming more confident, more connected, more able to advocate for needs, more comfortable participating in life, or Are they becoming more anxious, more rigid, more shut down, more exhausted? And I think parents should trust themselves here because sometimes families notice something important before anyone else does. They may say, I know the data says progress is happening, but something doesn't feel right. That deserves attention. Parents live with the whole child, not just the therapy version of the child. And sometimes what looks successful in a controlled setting does not generalize into healthy functioning in daily life. So we have to keep looking at the full picture. I also want parents to hear this clearly. You are allowed to reevaluate. You are allowed to stop and reassess. You are allowed to change providers. You are allowed to ask for fewer hours. You are allowed to say, this approach does not feel like the right fit for my child. And if something is helping your child meaningfully, you are also allowed to continue without guilt. This does not have to become an identity battle. It can stay grounded in the actual child. What helps this child function better? What supports communication? What reduces suffering? What increases safety and autonomy? What supports long-term emotional health? That's the framework. Not ideology, not pressure, not fear. So after an autism diagnosis, how should families think about ABA? Slowly, thoughtfully, with curiosity instead of panic. Learn what the actual program looks like. Observe your child carefully. Pay attention to communication, regulation, autonomy, and emotional safety. Listen to autistic voices. Ask hard questions. Trust your observations. And remember, no therapy should require your child to stop being themselves in order to deserve support. The goal is not perfection. The goal is helping your child build skills, flexibility, communication, safety, and independence in ways that respect who they are. That's what matters. Now, in the next episode, we're going to talk about autism and school. Because for many families, once the diagnosis settles in, the next major challenge becomes: how do I help my child succeed in the educational environment? IEPs, 504 plans, accommodations, teacher communication, sensory overwhelm at school, school refusal, masking, burnout, advocacy. We're going to break all of that down in a way that feels practical and manageable because school systems can feel incredibly overwhelming for families, especially in the beginning. And I want to help make that process feel clearer. Now, if you're listening today and thinking, okay, this finally makes sense, but I need help applying it. I want you to know that you don't have to figure that out on your own. If and when you're ready for ongoing neurodivergent-specific support, the Neurodivergent Parenting Collective was created for parents who want practical tools, real clarity, and a space where your child's needs don't have to be explained or defended. You can find more information in the episode description, and you're welcome to explore it at your own pace. You deserve support that actually reflects what you're living day to day. You are not failing your child because you're asking difficult questions about therapy and about support. In fact, asking thoughtful questions is part of protecting your child. The goal is not to find a perfect intervention. I don't even know if such a thing exists. The goal is to understand what helps your child grow while still feeling emotionally safe, understood, and respected. Your child's behavior is telling a story. And your child's nervous system is telling a story too. So we keep slowing down. We keep looking beneath the behavior. We keep making decisions from a place of understanding instead of fear. Here we focus on supporting neurodivergent kids with science, not shame. You are not failing your child. You are learning how to understand them. And that matters. So let's keep going together.